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18th November 2006, 03:42
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My Mood: Rep Power: 9  | Re: New sex-segregated rules Quote:
Originally Posted by dr1819 Actually, a few years ago, before uncontrollable men drove them off, there was a rather large contingent of women who posted there regularly, on a wide variety of quite good, healthy, wholesome, female-heeling topics.
They enjoyed themselves, and life was good.
Along came a bunch of dudes who thought that because they wore heels and other feminine clothing they could post there willy-nilly.
The women felt violated, robbed of their territory, and almost all of them left.
Since this is a site about heels, not about males who wear heels and who outnumber the women in the women's section by 5 to 1, we came up with this rule to restore balance to this website.
Please respect our decision.
Thank you. | I don't think you quite grasped my point. I KNOW that there were regular female posters. I REMEMBER when that forum was invaded as opposed to what I and a few others did, which was post there to either ask the women a question, or to engage in a bit of dialogue on a topic. It didn't bother the women then. There are older threads from when LaurieHeels was a regular wheer some real dialogue was going on, no stupid attacks/supplication from either side.
What DID really cause a lot of problems was the influx of the gender crowd, which as I said was discuswed in all those threads about who ought post in the women's forum and who ought not. They were given their own forum, but they had their cake and ate it as well. Meaning, they posted in the tranny forum whilst also dominating the women's forum.
Eventually, the supplication/begging started. A certain poster who said that all heel wearing men were ipso facto trannies started severe arguments with several people. I jumped in after having been away from the board for awhile. It was impossible to take both the insults from that poster and witness the supplication of some of the other posters who were so desperate for female posters they would put up with such crap as that one gave out.
I'm willing to go along with the segregated forums. Perhaps there will be more female posters, perhaps not. If there are, will they be any worth dealing with. Do the men here really want a nest of queen bees who hold them in absolute contempt?
Time will tell.
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18th November 2006, 04:01
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My Mood: Rep Power: 9  | Re: New sex-segregated rules Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsHeels
Hello Dandy Dude -
There are a few new members who are women, I have found them to be respect - worthy, and can only ask that you please not generalize us, and give each new lady a chance to earn your respect and dialogue.....
As for men posting in the girls section, I find all of this silly. I am a strong "Girl", and cannot be run off just because there are more men here then girls. If I felt you were overwhelming me in "my" section, I would respectfully tell you.
I personally find the mens opinion of a womens subject informing and important to me, but this is me, and I am not the administrator of this forum.
Would be great if we could all share and play nice....I wear a size 11, Anyone wanna come play with me???
Katherine (Mrs. Heels to the Mr. that wears my heels too) | Hello Katherine Heels:
Thanks for replying. I would not say that I was judging all women who may post here, but only commenting on a few shit-stirrers who seemed to have gotten their way now. I had posting chats with a few of those who are no longer around, I enjoyed it immensely. LaurieHeels was quite interesting and had great taste in shoes to boot, no pun intended but unavoidable.
I'm willing to go along with the new policy, let's see what happens. I do think the "women only" crowd would be better served by the more female oriented boards, although they ironically enough have some male members and the women don't mind their discussions.
Size 11? I wear a men's USA13. Like yours, it is one size above the cut-off point for standard sizes. I have a hard time finding regular "male shoes", let alone heels. I've found a site which has ankle boots made in USA up to women's size 15W and WW inclusive. They are very well made and quite resonable. They fit quite well.
Perhaps the everyone forum will begin to fill up with male/female dialogue. We shall see.
DD
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18th November 2006, 08:30
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My Mood: Rep Power: 21  | Re: New sex-segregated rules What you all seem to forget is that when a female member asks for support or answers from other females, she means just that.
And yet, the men here just continue to flood the threads with posts. dont tell me that this is the way to keep female members.
Also, if a wife or girlfreind wants to know what others have gone through when they found out their man wears heels, they are noot going to get what they are looking for from the guys.
So the way I see it, they guys can post anywhere in the HHplace apart from 'for the girls'
is that so much to ask? (and dont bother answering that ).
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25th November 2006, 12:01
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Rep Power: 15  | Re: New sex-segregated rules This isn't about the men seeking an additional channel.
It's about keeping the women's channel clear of male posting that historically became so prolific with male posts it drove most of the women away.
We're in the process of correcting that.
Stay out of the women's area. Those who can't will be permanently driven away by the mods and admin.
Capisca?
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25th November 2006, 15:29
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My Mood: Rep Power: 14  | Re: New sex-segregated rules Thats cool I can respect that rule I never posted in the girls section anyway. But I just wanted to say that I notice the board has gotten kinda of conservative or at least a tad bit more stirct which I know is because you want a better image for the site which I think is great. But try not to be too overzealous about it. To many rules will drive people away.
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25th November 2006, 15:35
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My Mood: Rep Power: 25  | Re: New sex-segregated rules  Out of all other places for men to post, what the hell is one segregated thread going to hurt?
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25th November 2006, 17:35
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My Mood: Rep Power: 0  | Re: New sex-segregated rules Quote:
Originally Posted by hoverfly  Out of all other places for men to post, what the hell is one segregated thread going to hurt? | Since it's just one thread among many, please refrain from posting there.
Thanks.
By doing so, you're respecting the rights of the women who do post there, and hopefully (time will tell), help rebuild this board's female population to former levels, particularly since it's the only thread among many that the women can call their own. Quote:
Originally Posted by asdf174 To many rules will drive people away. | You're absolutely correct. Too many rules along one line will drive some people away, while too many rules along another line will drive other people away.
The goal of our administrative staff is to promote an open forum with respect to the wear of heels, but guard against this forum being overrun with either males or females, or other issues such as narcism, transvestic fetishism, etc. So long as the posts adhere to the few simple rules (one of which is no male posting in the women's forum), the healthier the forum is as a whole.
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25th November 2006, 21:29
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My Mood: Rep Power: 9  | Re: New sex-segregated rules Indulge me as I started this thread.
My points were that the fighting was started by the influx of the gender crowd into the women's forum. Certain female posters left, others decided to stir shit. I can think of one who actively baited by accusing all heel wearing men of being ipso facto trannies. I got into the argument because I was tired of the insults and also sick of the supplication. I wondered recently if it's good for the board to have female posters who actively despise the men here.
There are many boards where the men grovell and the women insult them. There are also many boards where men boast about their "modifications." There are a few boards where men discuss their style choices, but they tend to be segregated by sex. This is the only board that has been trying to deal with men wearing heels in a non-fetish way, inclusive of women, as those of us who wish to wear them as part of a style would be ridiculed on fetish boards and drag boards as well. I'd like a return to the days of reciprocal posting.
Those were my points, more or less.
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25th November 2006, 21:59
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My Mood: Rep Power: 22  | Re: New sex-segregated rules Quote:
Originally Posted by asdf174 . . . But I just wanted to say that I notice the board has gotten kinda of conservative or at least a tad bit more stirct which I know is because you want a better image for the site which I think is great. . . | Please let me add my two cent's worth here (feel free to convert to local monetary units as necessary)--
I think the apparent conservatism in this board stems from two sources:
1). The new administration is enforcing rules that have always been present. This is especially true for rules with respect to decency -- the hosting service for the old board had some rather strict and well-defined rules in this area and we had to toe the line. Trouble was, the existing administration had reached a point where other life pursuits had overtaken this board and a lot of stuff was "slipping through". This allowed some members to cultivate bad habits, habits that now need to be broken.
2). As I understand the situation, we (meaning the administration) want this board to be a kind of "gateway portal" for anybody who has an interest in high heels. Whatever your gender, if you are into heels you can come here and find something of interest. Your own personal interest may take you beyond the scope of this board but this is a place to start. There are a lot of other heel sites out there.
As an example, take my own personal experience. I found this board some five years ago after a Web search for "men wearing high heels". Had I found a great number of pictures showing genitalia or the like, I probably would have clicked my way out of here never to return. (It does not serve us well to "scare off" new members with overly graphic content.)
After about a year and a half of "lurking" I decided to register and begin posting. But as I readied myself to "take the plunge" a veritable "war between the sexes" broke out because women felt their forum was being invaded. Many of our celebrated female members left during that fracas and have not been heard from since. We are hopeful that enforcement of the rules and keeping guys out of the "for the gals" forum will make this board more female-friendly and keep more women around.
Now as much as we guys like our heels, you cannot really have a well-rounded discussion of high heels without including input from women. And if keeping the ladies interested here means letting them have a place of their own, I do not think that is too much to ask. Most of us are actually straight guys so we enjoy having the women around!
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26th November 2006, 16:35
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My Mood: Rep Power: 14  | Re: New sex-segregated rules Yeah I know and I totaly agree. I guess it didn't come off as big of a problem to me because I didn't talk to any of the female members on the site too much and vise versa. (Don't know why I'm straight I'm just one of those guys women don't really notice. Especially on the net.) But I do think it is an ok rule.
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