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Old 2nd April 2002, 08:30   #1 (permalink)
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What a mess, when the millenium celebration took place it seemed OK (sort of). Look now daily suicide bombings etc. Any opinions, solutions? Sorry for being serious, sometimes I am.
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Old 2nd April 2002, 08:44   #2 (permalink)
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For my thinking, I think peace talk are really no help to each other. They were like having 5 or 6 peace talk for the last 18 month yet nothing turns out but the worse. Actually both parties do have their roles to play. The Israelis is pressuring Arafat to do something.. in a way is good but I feel they have also gone a little overboard.

They can't just retaliate all the time because it will only cause more harm but the Hamas group also never stop sending their suicide bombers over....

For my opinion... I guess it stated in the Bible ( I'm a little religious though ) that they won't really have peace till the end times.
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Old 2nd April 2002, 09:30   #3 (permalink)
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Answer is simply. Every young palestenian girl/boy should move to a religious neutral country and meet there jewish boy/girl and marry him/her. Further every young jewish girl/boy should move to a religious neutral country and meet there palestenian boy/girl and marry him/her.

After that they and their children should come back to Israel/Palestine and start the peace.

When I met my wife I didn't aske her if she was cristian, jewish or muslim. I just fall in love.

During WW2 died millions of people. After war we wice men create "The European Coal and Steel Community" to control war industry raw materials and develop our economy.
Why the hell they can't make peace because we could and we killed even more people.
 
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America needs to lay off the double standard and stop supporting Israel. The only solution is for Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories. It doesn't matter how many palestinians they kill, there will always be suicide bombers as long as they wont withdraw.
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Actually, the answer is not that simple.

Firstly, the Israelis annexed the West Bank, The Gaza Strip, The Sinai Peninsula and the Golan Heights in 1967 as a result of the Six Day War and to ask the Israelis to hand it back would be like asking the US to hand southern California back to the Mexicans.

Secondly, there are now a huge number of Israelis living in the "Disputed Territory"- (around 10% of the population?) and they would either be displaced against their wishes or any wishing to stay would be victims of viscious ethnic cleansing of a scale that would dwarf the Balkan troubles. Let us not forget that the settlements are built on land purchased from Palistinians at vastly inflated prices.

Lastly, withdrawal from these regions would reduce the size of the country to around a third and bring every single Israeli man, woman and child within range of Syrian or Jordanian artillery.

Solution: Withdrawal of Israeli Forces and set up a "Buffer State" totally demilitarised and directly policed and supervised by the UN. Requirement of passports to enter and leave. Eventually, this would become a separate autonomous state, though this in itself could take 50 years.
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Can the west be the police of the world? I don't know but I don't want to look like an uninvited big brother. It just make those who hate the west madder. I am sure it is going to get worse before it gets better. It could be possible that we might see something similar to another Berlin Wall or Korea at the 32nd parallel? There is one big difference though. We are not keeping two governments separate with one ethnic group. We are separating two governments with two ethnic groups with two religious beliefs. All this for the same god. What a shame.
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I agree with Allu. Greater cultural integration is required. Stop indocrination of young children. They have got to stop killing and start loving. They are both as bad as each other, I don't take any sides in the issue. It's the same problem in Northern Ireland. Killing is senseless and will never solve anything.
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Can the west be the police of the world? I don't know but I don't want to look like an uninvited big brother. It just make those who hate the west madder. I am sure it is going to get worse before it gets better. It could be possible that we might see something similar to another Berlin Wall or Korea at the 32nd parallel? There is one big difference though. We are not keeping two governments separate with one ethnic group. We are separating two governments with two ethnic groups with two religious beliefs. All this for the same god. What a shame.
I was actually thinking of a force composed of peoples from countries that neither support zionism or palestinianism (?) For example: Chinese, South Africans, etc. I gather that in these kind of situation, the personnel are selected from neutral countries which is why there are a lot of Scandinavian UN troops in Cyprus.
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Another good trick would be to lock Arrafat and Sharon in a room and leave them to it for six or seven years.
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How about lobotomy-surgery to both guys?
 
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