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Old 29th October 2003, 22:19   #11 (permalink)
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I haven't laughed so much for a long time. :rofl:
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we currently have 2 tabby moggies :) Jake and Elwood.

Jake is a lazy fat slob that doesn't care and will take fuss from anyone, while Elwood is more wary but is a very loving cat who asks to go out.

Different story when I lived in Lincolnshire. We had 27 cats! Yes! 27!!
Jackie has nightmarish memories of asking to feed the cats when she first moved in !
24 cats came in that night for feeding, although 5 were tiny kittens and 2 cats scared the life out of her :lol: Mind you, Nicholas was more like a panther than a cat and Thomas (His Nibs) was just demanding :)

Most of our cats came from extra litters being produced, although some came from other people not wanting their cats and dumping them at our place. That's where the dog came in though. He would scare off any people attempting to dump their cats, but would bring home any weak cats he found. A very loving, intelligent dog. He used to nurse the kittens which was a strange sight. A 6.5 stone sable coloured labrador lay on his side with week old kittens by his belly.

Some cats were real characters, Thomas came to us as a 1 day old and we hand reared him. He tried to establish himself as top cat until Ellie realised and knocked him down a few pegs. Nicholas was a huge black cat that didn't have a single ounce of fat on him, just pure muscle. Stark contrast to his brother, Steven, who was mostly flab. Lucy was a lovely white and tortoise shell colour and gave birth to some really beautiful kittens. Cleo was a thin black cat that I found behind a stack of newspapers, she was suffering from both her hips been broken. We took her to the vets and got her patched up. The vet put her on steroids and advised us to not let her into any weightlifting competitions :lol: He reckoned that she wouldn't live much more than 3 months. She lived for another 5 years until she disappeared.

Even with all these cats about, I was still able to keep chickens. The cats didn't bother with them at all and would ignore them even when I let the chickens out of the pen to roam around the garden, but the cats would have any mouse, rat or rabbit that they encountered.

I love cats, but I sometimes have to wonder about Jake these days. He walks around with a stoned look on his face and has the intelligence of his food !
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Speaking of Cats! Halloween is Friday! Black cats and all that. However, Francis we needs lots of pictures of the party for those of us that aren't able to be there in person. :P
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My younger sister has a black cat, with a few white hairs on the chest. Which is not fair, I have always wanted the black cat.

Of course, there are places that hide all of the black cats in the shelter before Hallowe'en, in case people are adpoting them for stupid rituals.

Cats are sacred, just ask an Ancient egyptian. oh right, those left have had their brains, organs and tongues removed, and wrapped up in tensor bandages or some such thing. Tragic accidents, they seem to have.

But still!
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I just got this in an e-mail today, it's related so... :lol: http://65.160.96.70/hhplace/images/1067665089.jpg
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My mother is thinking about giving back one of her kittens.

We have tried so much with this little one to get her to behave. And the only problem is that she likes to relieve herself on the carpet. Not urinate, that she is happy to do in the litter box. And sometimes, she will deficate there as well without prompting. But she has used the carpet in every room of my mother's apartment at least once. And she has a favourite spot about two feet from the bathroom door, as we have the litter box in there. When we had one in the hall, just outside the bathroom, she'd still decide to go about six inches to a foot away from it.

We have tried different litters, we have two litter boxes again, we have sprayed the carpet with many things that cats are supposed to dislike, we have given her more attention, we have priased her, we constantly show her the litter box and try to make her feel comfortable there...

Nothing is working. So it's likely my mother will have the cat go back to the shelter tomorrow, which is heart breaking, for me, my mother, and for the older kitten as well, except he doesn't know what's going on yet.

How does one deal with having to get rid of a kitten that is very much wanted?

And at this point, my mother will not change her mind, as much as she loves her little kitten. If the shelter does not call by tomorrow morning to offer some new advice, the kitten goes back.

So if anyone has advice on how to get over having to give up a very much wanted pet, I would really like it.
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Laurie have you tried vinegar where your kitten does her busines on the carpet/floor. I believe that cats dont like the smell so wont go there again to do their business.
And haveyou tried changing the litter regularly, this too has an effect on them I have heard.

Hope you are able to keep your little one.

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Well, we have two weeks to figure it out, according to my mother. Vet visit will go in there as we can afford it.

I do the litter every night, cleaning it, changing it, whatever it needs. We've been using citrus on the carpets prior to this, we have this spray, but so far no luck. We have a bit of vinegar, so that will be next.

But my mother doesn't think it is a scent issue. The thought is that this kitten was premature, or is somehow having problems. She's tiny, and she's very quiet. Sometimes she's fine, sometimes she goes in the hallway. And she knows it is wrong, and she runs if she's caught.

My mother is hoping the vet can see if she has bowel problems. The bottom line is that if our little kitten is in any kind of discomfort, then she should be free of it, through surgery or otherwise.

Kittens, like people, deserve to be happy, and live happy lives.
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My mother is thinking about giving back one of her kittens.

We have tried so much with this little one to get her to behave. And the only problem is that she likes to relieve herself on the carpet. Not urinate, that she is happy to do in the litter box. And sometimes, she will deficate there as well without prompting. But she has used the carpet in every room of my mother's apartment at least once. And she has a favourite spot about two feet from the bathroom door, as we have the litter box in there. When we had one in the hall, just outside the bathroom, she'd still decide to go about six inches to a foot away from it.

We have tried different litters, we have two litter boxes again, we have sprayed the carpet with many things that cats are supposed to dislike, we have given her more attention, we have priased her, we constantly show her the litter box and try to make her feel comfortable there...

Nothing is working. So it's likely my mother will have the cat go back to the shelter tomorrow, which is heart breaking, for me, my mother, and for the older kitten as well, except he doesn't know what's going on yet.

How does one deal with having to get rid of a kitten that is very much wanted?

And at this point, my mother will not change her mind, as much as she loves her little kitten. If the shelter does not call by tomorrow morning to offer some new advice, the kitten goes back.

So if anyone has advice on how to get over having to give up a very much wanted pet, I would really like it.

Some cats do this when they are very young, but you can train them to use a litter tray and they will grow out of it. Cats are usualy very clean so I think you will find that this is just a phase it's going through. I know it's difficault, but just try and stick it out and it will all come right in the end.
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