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a fantasy created by politicians so they can tax us on more stuff...

today is the 6th April... my garden should be full of daffodils....

This is the view from my bedroom window...

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This is out of my lounge

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and this is out of my kitchen...

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Dr. Shoe

Actually Global Warming isn't a lie, it's part of the natural fluctuations of the planet. Latest figures hint that the mean global temperature is starting to edge back down again.

The fact that man is causing it is the big lie which has been put about to justify large corporations and governments to extort more money out of us in higher prices and taxes.

The main reason why you have snow in your garden is because we are experiencing freak weather, the average temperatures are actually normal for this time of year.

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Loveshiheels

The veiw out my window is the same and is still snowing

Arctic

Is there a remote possibility you don't understand the complexities of the ecosystem? I got that impression when you tried to prove your point with a few pictures.

Pretty much in the same way driving from the bakery to home without wearing seatbelts and not dying in a horrible traffic accident proves that seatbelts are a scam.

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Thighboots2

I've got snow in my garden too.

I don't think global warming is a lie, BUT it is a good excuse for the governent to rake in some more money for themselves.

Snow is April is not so rare as we like to think, I know it doesn't happen every year, but it isnt like it never happens. There was one year, when I was a tender 7 years old (1962/3), it snowed on boxing day and it lay around until Easter.

Fruit growers are always worried at this time of year because they don't want frosts causing damage to the new buds.

Even so, it is a shock to wake up to find snow on the ground.

Simon.

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yozz

The main problem is that most people have a difficult time with statistics.
There are always fluctuations. Global warming doesn't mean that we won't have
cold weather anymore. It will just be (a little bit) less frequent.
And then, it may well be that most of the planet gets warmer but some parts
will actually get colder. This would definitely be the case if the melting of the
polar ice would cause the gulfstream to revert. The geological evidence is that
this has happened in the past. It will get mighty cold in Europe. Have a look at
the map of the east coast of North America at the same latitude.....

Expectations are that this year the world average temperature will be a bit lower
because of la Nina (cold current in the pacific ocean), but in a few years there will
be another el Nino and things may be hot again. I know somebody who's job it
is to work with the climate models, and although Al Gore may at points exagerate,
on the whole he may not be very far off. And the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere
seems really the work of humanity, because over the past years we have actually
had relatively little volcanic activity (a major source of CO2, but also volcanoes
have a cooling effect due to the dust they put in the upper atmosphere).

Now, whether governments and companies abuse the situation to squeeze more
money out of the public, there you can make some safe bets.
In Holland we had a case where they put 25 cents extra tax (still in the old coins,
hence about 11 Euro cents) on each liter of gasoline to make people drive less.
Yet in the budget they put this with the (correct) assumption that people would keep
driving just as much.
Another hype is the hybrid car. The other day one of the consumer programs here
went to investigate how much they really save and how they live up to the advertised
promises. There was no measurable profit. In the advertisements they do as if the
electric engine runs for free. Would be great of course, but is a bit against physics....

Y.

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Tech

Holy Crap, people still own Ford Cortina's ?

I guess that belongs to people who park it there and walk the rest of the way home so their own neighbours dont see it?

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hoverfly

1. Global warming is an natural processes that has been accelerated by man.

2. At the same time the planet is trying to warm up it's trying to cool it's self down. That's why we seem to have crazy weather

3. It's been concluded that it will be cheaper to adapt to climate change than to fight it. Most likely why NASA and government offices tried to hide global warming from the general public. C02 comes form to many sources both man made and natural to control.

4. Even though we have a movement to try to fix the damage, that most likely will not happen. But look it at the bright side. It has main streamed a whole industry into the economic factor creating jobs. Renewable energy!!! Which will help stabilize energy issues around the world. Bad news is it will take a very long time, up to 100 years to be fully effective.

5. I been in a blizzard in April, and had to deliver news papers by foot when I was a kid. So what do I really say about global warming, hold on it's going to be a Wilde ride!!!! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

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Dr. Shoe

I'm not so sure. Us believing that we can change the climate (control the weather) is a bit like the fleas believing that they can direct the dog. Yes it is a natural process but it's arrogance of the highest order to believe that we are causing or making a major contribution to it. The human race produces around 3% of all the CO2 produced on this planet, CO2 is about 0.02% of the atmosphere so our efforts account for 0.0006% of the atmospheric volume. This is nowhere near enough to have any effect at all on the mean global temperature, in fact CO2 has a variance of about 5% - more than we actually produce, cows produce more CO2 than we do!

This wonderful planet of ours has some wonderful ways of dealing with climate change. The ice caps are a "cold store" of ice ready to be redistributed if need be to bring the temperature back down. Having large ice-caps is a bit like having a air-conditioning on standby. The melting ice-caps are like having it switched on. The ocean currents are there to transfer warm water to cooler climates and vise versato help keep the planet's temperatures relatively constant. This is not the first time it's experienced global warming and conversely there have been a number of ice-ages too.

What adaptations? All that's going to happen is that farmers in coller climates will be able to grow crops more associated with warmer climates and farmers in the tropics may find that their land is turning into desert. However, this will be balanced by cold tundras in the north suddenly becoming lush farmland.

It is not damage as such, only natural changes so there's nothing to fix. The renewables industry has nothing to do with global warming but more to do with a dwindling of fossil fuels.

Just like the one we had here in London this morning. I don't think the ride is really going to be so wild... we may get a couple more catrionas but they would and could have happened anyway, global warming or not!

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hoverfly

Geeee does this mean I am blowing it out of proportion? Nope I don't think so, it's really a life changing event. There is 200 to 300 years of fossils fuel left under current estimates the question is, is everbody going to share it? Nope. Renewable answers to several problems not just in the short term but in the long term as well.

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