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Old 8th September 2008, 12:18   #1 (permalink)
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Post Mens Heels... Seriously....

The Truth: Get Over It

Let's face it. As long as crossdressers, transgendered, and homosexual people exist, high heels for men will always be a hard concept to be accepted as mainstream fashion; as the majority of men are heterosexual and they do not want to be labeled as homosexual. I'm being blunt and I think everyone in this forum should be real about the situation.


Remedy: A plan to make it happen...

I am a heterosexual male who does not crossdress, nor am I transgendered. I do believe however, that the only thing that should dictate what gender an article of clothing is for, is the anatomy that it is made for... Not the time period, nor the culture norms of that time.

However, in this mediocre world, fashion has accepted mainstream guidelines set for both genders. Since the focus is on high heels for men; these guidelines are...
  • When you buy heels, the heel of the shoe should come pretty close to matching the your calf, respectively. An obese man wearing six inch stilettos just does not look right, but at the same rate, he could get away with the same heel height as long as the heel was thicker. Even women have been following these guidelines. Keeping this in mind, shoes should be designed with the male calf in mind. As far as wedges are concerned, I think wedges were a born symbol of unisex footwear, that is as long as it doesn't break any of the other rules....
  • Heels with thin sandal straps would be the equivalent of a muscular man wearing a spaghetti strap halter top... it just wouldn't look right. Men's tank tops have thick straps for a reason. The same should be applied for men's high heeled sandals.
  • Not one pair of men's flat shoes, with an emphasis on a pointed toe, has a pointed toe. They have always been squared or rounded off at the tip. On the other hand, women's shoes of the same style, have always come to a point at the end. I think this trend should be observed when wearing heels for men, but only if an emphasis is being put toward a pointed toe. Note: I'm sure the details can be debated.
  • I have yet to see a pair of men's shoes with an opening on the top. It has always been closed off as a way to hide the hair on top of a man's foot. If anyone is going to take heels for men seriously, then heels with this opening should not be in your wardrobe.
  • In the end, a man can wear any style of shoes, boots, and even ballet boots, as long as the insole is shaped for the male. You could even make it pink with lots of feminine bows, but if the insole is shaped for a man, then it's obviously made for the man. Unfortunately, people don't follow my view of what classifies the gender of clothing, so the guidelines above will have to be put in place.

The Plan


The only way for people to take men's high heels seriously, is if they evolve from the men's shoes we are currently wearing. All other attempts will be viewed as they are now, weird and oppressed.
If you are a normal guy who just wants to see high heels for men, then please follow the guidelines above. Eventually, you will be able to wear the more exotic styles, but not now.


Traitors!!!

I've read quite a few articles of crossdressers, drag queens, and homosexuals who do not want to see this trend move forward. It clashes with there sense of individuality and they do not wish to be classified as just another person.
As a way to sabotage this effort, they have purposely stationed themselves among online groups and forums such as these, as a way for the outside world to perceive us all as "just another crossdresser".


The Movement


I've contacted a number of exotic footwear companies with suggestions that follow these rules. I also provided them all with extensive research of different background groups, cultures, and other reports as a way to coax them into producing actual heels for men.

I have even given them plans to make people take there efforts seriously.

So far.... so good....
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do you actually wear heels at all?
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Many good points...
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I wear what I want. I wear womens shoes of all styles. I'm not in it for fashion, or whats popular. I don't want heels designed for my size and shape. I'll wear highheels, low heels, strappy heels, and open toe heels. I don't need to be told what I can wear. I wear fiminine footwear because thats what I like.
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edmondsean, with all due respect I do not agree with your views, however I do not dispute their validity. The good thing about this forum is that it allows for every view point. I hope you enjoy being a part of this diverse group.
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Some of us aren't trying to change the World and just choose to wear heels because we enjoy them. Kudos for your attempts, I can understand your angle of approach.
 
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My thing is why try to shape the heel into a man's shoe. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan for platforms and tennis shoes. I'm sure that many will agree with me when I say that most male shoes are boring whether it is leather, snakeskin, alligator, whatever it is just plain out boring. High heels represent power, risk, and elegance. If you put a three inch heel on a male shoe nothing changes about it except for it is a male shoe with a heel........Um no!!! In my opinion hidden heels really defeat its purpose as far as people on the outside looking at our shoes as normal but the only person knowing the shoe is a feminine shoe is the wearer. High heels are suppose to say "WORLD LOOK AT ME!!!" So I must say I am in disagreement with the statement placed above because their concept wants our shoes to be disguised as normal and lets face it normal is boring!!!
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Default Re: Mens Heels... Seriously....

You have some points, good and bad ones in my opinion.
Your own opinion is what counts for you, but I don't think it's a good idea to impose it over anyone around the globe.

The differences between people is what makes our world a nice place to live.

That's fine to expose your point of view but, please don't take me wrong, your attitude and the "pitch" on the way you write sounds a bit agressive.

I, myself, am a pointed toe lover, a lot of members here are and don't see anything worng with that. Some members have showed pictures of obese wheight wearing stilletos and they look good for me.

Trying to label things and people is contrary to the extensive freedom of the people that comes to this forum.

Vive la diversité!
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I hate to use the following phrase, but, I agree and disagree (god I hate saying that). If you are looking to change the outlook on how alot of people view gender based clothing, then yes, the first step would be to model a mans shoe (in this case) after a womans. To me, if I buy a "womans" shoe,then it is no longer a womans shoe, but mine. The general public may disagree, but it is mine, and seeing how I dont wear them publicly, then its still mine. Unfortunately, the general consensus says that clothing, of all kinds, is gender specific. If I buy a skirt, again, its mine. It may have been designed, and marketed (the biggest problem with anything is marketing) for a woman, but who cares. Society dictates what is, and is not acceptable with anything we do,wear, or eat. We are society, and all it takes is for a few individuals to gather, then you are a group (as we have here), then more people become "aware" (couldnt think of a better word) that it is more common than they thought. There will always be stereo typing, no way around that. Even a woman wearing tight skirts and high stiletto heels, is first looked at (depending on location), as "trampy".

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  • When you buy heels, the heel of the shoe should come pretty close to matching the your calf, respectively. An obese man wearing six inch stilettos just does not look right, but at the same rate, he could get away with the same heel height as long as the heel was thicker. Even women have been following these guidelines. Keeping this in mind, shoes should be designed with the male calf in mind. As far as wedges are concerned, I think wedges were a born symbol of unisex footwear, that is as long as it doesn't break any of the other rules....
This is the same as saying that a larger woman should not wear stiletto's as well, and I have to disagree. I have seen many that do indeed look great in them, and the same goes for the opposite. I could go on and on,but dont really feel a need to. Bottom line is, wear what you feel comfortable in, be in in public, or in private. Just because something is accepted by the public as "normal" or "weird" doesnt mean it is.
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[quote=edmondsean;177237]The Truth: Get Over It


Traitors!!!

I've read quite a few articles of crossdressers, drag queens, and homosexuals who do not want to see this trend move forward. It clashes with there sense of individuality and they do not wish to be classified as just another person.
As a way to sabotage this effort, they have purposely stationed themselves among online groups and forums such as these, as a way for the outside world to perceive us all as "just another crossdresser".

So are you saying that these people are against straight men who just want to wear heels? Are you among these people?
Just curious.
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