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Old 24th February 2008, 12:00   #1 (permalink)
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Son talk to father:
- Daddy, daddy, some guy wanted to rape me in the park.
- You didn’t escape?
- In high heels?

Look at this provocation:
http://www.joemonster.org/art/7773/Warszawianki-najpiekniejszymi-Polkami
It was in Warsaw. Someone took me photos and someone else wrote this article.

Translation:
“There are people who don’t need to convince that in Poland most beutiful are Warsaw women. This people who have another view just didn’t see real Warsaw women. And today we give this other people a chance to verification views. This is photo from Warsaw street. This photo present something that it couldn’t be named as a woman. It is OCCURRENCE.

If you thing that in another city than Warsaw there are most beautiful women, read more and check if you will don’t change your mind...

She is good?

So, now look out...

And what? In what city there are most beautiful polish women?
P.S. Remember! Never take a bet when you are drunk!”

Sorry for mistake in title:
polish joke i provocation -> polish joke and provocation

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Old 24th February 2008, 12:26   #2 (permalink)
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polish joke i provocation -> polish joke and provocation
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Old 24th February 2008, 22:11   #3 (permalink)
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I may have lost something in translation here, but are you saying someone took your picture and then wrote a defamatory article

It is allowed to take pictures of a person in a public place but not use them in a defamatory context, so you are within your rights to ask them to remove your pictures in this case.
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Naturally I cannot understand the article but that's really sad to see things like that. You should take action against them for it... depends how you truly feel.
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Not funny at all if I'm reading it right. I thought polish jokes had gotten replaced by dumb blond jokes a long time ago.
This is very distastefull on the person who tried to play you for a polish woman joke and bad joke on polish women all around, if I'm reading this right.
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I may have lost something in translation here, but are you saying someone took your picture and then wrote a defamatory article

It is allowed to take pictures of a person in a public place but not use them in a defamatory context, so you are within your rights to ask them to remove your pictures in this case.
I thing that will be hard to do. I can summon them to the judgement but it could cost. And if i lose, i wiil have to pay . And i'm lazy .
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Coming from a publication called "Joe Monster", I wouldn't be overly concerned at the editorial quality.


I didn't quite get the gist (notion/basis) of the report, so ran it through a couple of on-line translators. They did not do any better, so in some ways my comments are taking a 'punt' on what it actually means ....

So until someone comes up with a definitive translation including intent...



The article looks like it's saying that Polish women are not the 'stunners' or glamourous women that people in Warsaw claim them to be? It identifies a girl and suggests they are nothing special (or maybe even a bit manly?)

I have to say, anyone looking at the photo's in the report, and then making that sort of remark has obviously not seen photographs of Kate Moss. Had you been wearing sunglasses and a bit of lippy, (lipstick), you could easily have been mistaken for a model.

Personally, I like your appearance. I'm a little surprised you are not wearing any make-up because it would complete your look, and the outfit could benefit from a little colour, somewhere.

The article has plainly upset you. It's a shame someone chose to write something this hurtful, but the name of the journal suggests they do this as a matter of course. [Unless 'monster' means something else in Poland?]

I hope kneehighs and HeelD read this thread. These guys spend time around fashion people, and I'm sure both of them would also have flattering things to say about your look.

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Coming from a publication called "Joe Monster", I wouldn't be overly concerned at the editorial quality.


I didn't quite get the gist (notion/basis) of the report, so ran it through a couple of on-line translators. They did not do any better, so in some ways my comments are taking a 'punt' on what it actually means ....

So until someone comes up with a definitive translation including intent...
Sorry for my not good english. You may learn polish .
OK. In shortcut: They suggested that i'm a woman. Ugly woman. This article have title "Warsaw women - most beautyful?". So this is "proof" that in Warsaw live ugly women. This is just stupid provocation.
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It identifies a girl and suggests they are nothing special (or maybe even a bit manly?)
Yes, a "girl". Of course they know that i'm a man. But maybe they are blind .

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Had you been wearing sunglasses and a bit of lippy, (lipstick), you could easily have been mistaken for a model.

Personally, I like your appearance.
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I'm a little surprised you are not wearing any make-up because it would complete your look, and the outfit could benefit from a little colour, somewhere.
It is not that easy. I tryed colourless lipstick and powder. But that's all. I'm undecided. Maybe i'll try.

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[Unless 'monster' means something else in Poland?]
No. In polish language there is no such word. JoeMonster is a name of the portal.
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Yes, a "girl". Of course they know that i'm a man. But maybe they are blind .


You know of course that cat-walk models are very boyish in looks? They are selected young, and under-fed to ensure they don't get womanly figures.


I tryed colourless lipstick and powder. But that's all. I'm undecided. Maybe i'll try.


Colourless? Wearing all black you should use some transparent foundation and seal it with some skin coloured powder. [Flatten your skin tone.] Then a little macara, and BRIGHT red lipstick. In the sun, sunglasses will help hide shorter lashes, and soften your brow.


No. In polish language there is no such word. JoeMonster is a name of the portal.

Good. It's an English term then. "Joe" is a common (meaning often used) name, in (say) America, and not that unusual in the UK. So, 'average' monster then? [Unpleasant/provocative 'street' person.]

I honestly think the journal is having a broad dig at Warsaw women in general, not you. Unfortunately you were in front of the camera when the author was looking for material to write about. As with Kate Moss, some lippy and sunglasses would transform your look from slightly plain, (no colour or accents) to someone who looks stunning.

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