Lies about heel height - Page 3

Anne_Louise · 23rd July 2004, 14:31

I don't want to fuel the flames of the Becky/Bubba dispute, I'm still getting to grips with the notion of men wearing women's style heels as part of their usual male attire! That's a matter that has, I know, been discussed before and doubtless will again in a separate thread. It shouldn't be necessary to emphasise however the obvious point that with my rather large (size 8 U.K.) feet I can comfortably wear much higher shoes than a size 4, and likewise a man who takes a size 10 is likely to be able to walk quite easily in heels.

I'm much more interested in the contribution from Greatspikeheels. Are we really to believe, in the twenty-first century, that all girls SHOULD be trained to wear heels? Of course any girls, once they've stopped growing, should be encouraged if they WANT to, and shouldn't be deterred by any social pressures. For those of us so inclined there is great satisfaction to be had from wearing the highest heels possible, and I for one will, health permitting, continue to do so for the rest of my days! However the idea that it should be a social convention for all women to wear heels, or any other kind of clothing for that matter, is very strange indeed; it brings to mind such things as Chinese foot-binding or early-years corset-training. Happily we live, or I thought we lived, in more enlightened times.

I, like other members here, am living proof that heels higher than 5" are fine for prolonged daily wear, given the advantages of strong joints and flexible feet and ankles, so it's impossible to generalise about such things - we are all made differently, and what might be painfully impractical for one is going to be unremarkable for someone else.

I apologise in advance if I have misunderstood the thought behind the posting, and please don't accuse me of indulging in a 'feminist rant'. I don't subscribe to any particular philosophy about such things, preferring to make up my own mind about the rights and wrongs of social behaviour, and I do find rather bizarre the thought of the kind of compulsion suggested by Greatspikeheels.

Anne Louise

Vanity · 23rd July 2004, 14:39

Hmm, is anyone interested in my thread any more?
I guess this will happen all the time since you guys can't keep to the actual subject, always your thoughts that counts.
Can't you leave a little bit of space for us without thoughtless comments.
I thought this was a forum for sharing interests, but it doesn't seem like that.
This will be my last contribution to this site, because I'm getting tired of all the "bezzerwizzers" here, and you will miss some of my best newly taken shots. I will simply change forum.
I asked before if this was a TV-forum, well, this really makes me wonder.
Some of you should stay in the closet, don't you agree gals?

Anne_Louise · 23rd July 2004, 15:09

Vanity, I'm afraid I've helped to redirect things a little, and I apologise. I simply wondered why in a forum which is dedicated to a common interest there should be quite so much angst from time to time. Passion maybe, but carping, aggression and insults do seem to be out of place on such a site.

Vanity, I look on you, Lucy and some others as kindred spirits, so please hang on in there, otherwise we all might gradually drift away, then it would become an all-male site! The consequences of that are too horrible to contemplate!

Anne Louise

Dr. Shoe · 23rd July 2004, 19:28

Well said.

Please don't go Vanity, you will be missed.

We are very much like some kind of family, a little dysfunctional maybe but a family nontheless and in any family you are going to get some argumentative old sod, set in they're ways but still with love to share.

Lucy · 24th July 2004, 10:36

Yes, I'm so sorry to hear about your family bereavement, but please don't go Vanity! As Anne-Louise says, please don't let out precious little band of high-heel-liking girls get to be an even smaller minority than it already is!

Despite the "invasions" of heel-wearing fellas (who overspill from their own designated threads and go off-topic through their sheer enthusiasm), I firmly maintain that this High Heel Meeting Place and Jenny's Forum are still the best places on the entire Net for us to be on. Look at the good sides:

1. There's no pornography due to our excellent rules and moderators.

2. Overly offensive behavior is curtailed by the same machinery.

3. There are approximately 1,400 members - a wonderful international community of high heel appreciators! That includes kindred spirits like you and me and Candice, Erica, Anne-Louise, Candi, Phuong, Laurie, Inga, Debbie, Anita, Vivienne, Gina, TexasBumpkin and a few other shining examples.

Where else will we find such a super community? It can be a little irritating if the heely fellas crash in and throw us off topic, but I can't find it in my heart to remain forever angry with them, because it is all straightforward over-enthusiasm! They do have their problems, because many of them post that they feel inhibited from wearing exciting heels to openly because of the ingrained conventions and potential ridicule from society, so I'm sure that much of the over-invasive and off-topic posting on our forums is another way of getting noticed by people, to try and give a outlet to their frustrations.

I think it is worth (perhaps with a little more help from the moderators) us girls putting up with these odd incursions, in order to continue enjoying and appreciating the best aspects of these unique and special forums.

As I say Vanity, please stay with us! If it'll reassure you if I get back on topic (which is what you wanted), here goes:

Yes, I've noticed myself that some of my friends (all nice people) do tend to exaggerate when describing their heels - especially recent purchases, so that when I get to see them, '5" heels' turn out to be 4", and '4" heels turn out to be 3" and so one. However, I have a cure for that! I make sure that I turn up in my GENUINELY 5" heels or 5 1/2" heels or whatever height they are claiming to have, and then I offer my heel up against theirs and shame them into observing the difference. Next time around, I find they are less inclined to exaggerate!

Love, Lucy

Love, Lucy

hoverfly · 24th July 2004, 15:31

Ok, I have tried to stay out of this one, but I think some people are over looking something here. I noticed over the years that I been on this board that the number of "normal" women has only recently increased been participating here. Most of the time under the gals section we've had one's selling their web sights, or who are cd's and tv's. These people were not overly concerned about men being intrusive into the Gals section. Nor have voiced there concern of it being such a problem.

I am willing to bet since this is a largely male member board, most of us men properly never to bother to check the index title on weather it's under the right gender to post on. This is because we are not use to having active women members (I know I have done this). It's also a numbers game on the posting side of things, we don't like to be wearing comfy loafers

and we all like to be wearing Debbie’s 6" Oxfords!!!! :D

There for I suggest that the women polity and politically enforce their section "for women only" One other thing, LADIES!!! PLEASE, BRING UP ANY PROBLEMS TO THE MODERATORS!!!! they have been very active and effective in keeping this board friendly for all.

Shoeiee · 24th July 2004, 15:42

Becky,

I have been a devoted reader of these forums for several years now and have witnessed many people come and go due to misunderstandings and sometimes blatant rudeness. One thing about the internet is there is no emotion from speech pattern conjecture involved, and hence the true meaning of one's words are easily misunderstood.

After thoroughly reading this topic and seeing the direction it has taken, there were several misunderstandings and even some rude comments made that were uncalled for.

The original topic was people lying about heel height and Daz did have a valid point in his original post here...

"it annoys me when some women at work talk about how uncomfortable their 'high' heeled shoee, and theyre usuall only about 3" at that. Quite silly when i with about an 10000th of their heel experience can easily wear 4.5-5" without a problem.

I think some people need introducing to real high heels, but id say in general, young girls or women dont measure their heels anyway."

In his defense, there are MANY women out there who routinely complain about their "high heels," and when you look at what they're wearing, one wonders "What heels?!?!" because they're 2 1/2" - 3" heels. I can thoroughly understand and accept a complaint from a gal who's wearing 4 1/2 - 5" heels as these are truly challenging. But 3"?? I'm quite certain that if you, Becky, were wearing 3" heels which FIT PROPERLY, you wouldn't complain a bit. The main point here is what qualifies as a HIGH HEEL varies from one person to the next!! To most on these forums, we're talking about 4 1/2" or higher.

As for his comment "Quite silly when i with about an 10000th of their heel experience can easily wear 4.5-5" without a problem," he does have a valid point, WHEN REFERENCED DIRECTLY TO THOSE WHO GRIPE ABOUT 3" HEELS...Not necessiarily about those who wear 5"+ heels though...And I don't believe he was commenting towards yourself or any other woman who wears 5"+ heels regularly. I would find it comical (if not tragic) to hear complaints about 3" heels being too high or uncomfortable after my own experiences in heels, even though I have not worn my 5"+ heels for weeks on end.

As a male who regularly reads here, it would become truly boring if all the women left. Us guys cherish your stories, thoughts and inputs. And not all of us feel that it should be compulsory for a girl to wear high stiletto heels. It saddens me when a woman refuses to open her mind to the possibility of wearing high heels, but to each their own. If a gal doesn't want to wear heels, then that's her choice in fashion.

As for guys wearing heels, I feel it is tragic that society is so down on this behavior. Women have been 'crossdressing' for years without any infringement on their rights to choose their own clothes from men (except in the beginning of the pants revolution when men objected...) Women now regularly shop in all sections of a store to find what suites them best in fit, fashion and comfort. Even though I'm not a CD/TV/TS I feel it's really sad that men are frowned upon by most of society for taking the same approach to clothing. After all, they're only clothes (or shoes!!)

In closing, I feel that there has been a TERRIBLE misunderstanding starting directly at the root of this topic. Vanity has stated a desire to stop posting here because of how off topic this post has gotten and I sincerely hope she reconsiders.

As for the original topic, I can only speak for the experiences my wife and I have shared. She has tried to exaggerate the actual height of her heels to me occasionally, but has been corrected and even impressed when she realized the true height she was wearing. She has had friends who have tried the same and we get a little private laugh at their ignorance :-)

I've said my piece and hence return the board back to the women in hopes that more will join in here and participate :-)

Happy Heeling!!

Bubba136 · 24th July 2004, 16:07

Ann_Louise wrote:

Quote:

I don't want to fuel the flames of the Becky/Bubba dispute,

Are you sure you meant Bubba (me), A_L? I don't have any pick with Becky. In fact, I think Becks is the greatest and wish she would appear here more often. :D

new_look · 24th July 2004, 22:24

i think bubba has a 'thing' for becky :d

as for vanity, i am too sorry to hear of your family deceased. Ive recently had someone pass away and it is not nice. I would like to apologise for intruding your original thread with our little argument (over nothing i might add) although what i originally posted related to your topic. I hope with that in mind you will not decide to avoid the board. Myself and many others would be sad to see you go.

With regards to us intruding i will say this. Personally i feel that as all the men on this board are going to support and understand each other with regards to heelwearing, it is nice to join a converstion with someone not a high heeled bloke to talk about heels/get opinions for ourselves with someone different. I often note that the most common thread started many times over is by a newish menber asking female opinions of what they think of us in heels.

Also i dont often see many replies from females in the guys section so i suppose its natural to come to this section to ask the questions.

daz

Firefox · 24th July 2004, 23:10

Threads are going to go off-topic. I'm sorry this one has, but that's life.

I also don't think some things that were said were very appropriate including telling people to go elsewhere and reference to snide or ignorant comments.

Please, let's get back on topic to Vanity's original subject, and be civil to each other and if you can't manage to be nice then don't post it.