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Old 10th February 2002, 19:21   #21 (permalink)
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You know Laurieheels, I bet this is a similar individually issue in what men also went through at one time with women. This was when women started to wear jeans and dress pants in public. This was at a time when skirts were the only actable form of clothing for a women in the U.S.A.

When a women wiggles and struts around with or with out heels, men notice. There are other advantages that a women have to use that men don't have.

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Old 10th February 2002, 19:57   #22 (permalink)
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On 2002-02-10 18:57, Slim wrote:
Self-expression? In my case I have no choice, I don’t try to be different, I just am. The things I do are as basic as my nose or baldhead. I have tried to change and can't. A couple of weeks ago a female friend, commenting on my ADD dyslexia, said “why it extends right down to your high heels”. I was wearing an unusually spiky pair of pointed toe boots when she made the comment. Sometimes you just have except things and get on with it.
Slim I am sorry that female friend subjected you to such negativity. I am ADHD and learning disabled myself. I can't see in what you wear caused that remark!!!! :???:
If I was subjected to that remark, that friend might halved received the golden toe award right out the door of my life. But, actually I would halved a one on one talk with her to tell her how deeply inappropriate that comment was.

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No, she was just commenting on a fact, not a jab at all! It is so,it cannot be otherwise!
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Old 10th February 2002, 23:47   #24 (permalink)
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Ah....Now I see it. Ooops...sorry.

One thing about having a dissibility, it can give you the ability to see things diffrently form the rest of the crowd. Keeps us open minded. But just like anbody else we can still be short sighted.
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I say let us all wear what we want, then perhaps it'll be easier for us to be individualistic in what we wear and not less so

Who say's that men can only wear this and women only wear that! Such a mind set is i believe wholly inappropriate for a supposedly enlightened society in the 3rd Millenium! If I want to wear heels I shall, and if I want to wear skirts i'll wear them too and like firefox said, pity anyone who is so taken with following the crowd that they become "homophobic" (of course like most of society i'm as hetero as the next person but that really isn't the issue here )

I guess that maybe sometime in the future we'll look upon discussion's like this with fondness and say "Did we really have to fight to win the right for men and women to dress how they wanted?" and feel glad that the right was won, here's hoping ....
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I have absolutely no interest in seeing men wearing high heels. I'm actually kind of bored with the whole "genderless" thing. Men are men and women are women. We chop wood and wear ties and unscrew pickle jars. Women breastfeed and wear high heels and pass the pickle jars to us. And that's a beautiful thing.

Disclosure: I once wore a pair of heels and was not pleased with what I saw in the mirror. It was just so wrong. The sight of a man in heels is, to me at least, like seeing Hitler dressed up as a rabbi.
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The notion that gender roles are "oppressive" is such a European concept. Everyone's a victim. And the notion that a man can "liberate" himself from such oppression by wearing women's shoes is hard to swallow. And, labelling men (such as myself) who disagree with male high heel-wearing as "homophobic" is an act of pure prejudice. I hate seeing flip-flops on women (and men). What kind of "phobic" does that make me?
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I'm not trying to say that anyone is phobic but certainly some are. As far as gender roles are concerned I wouldn't say that the notion that they are oppresive is perculiarly European, women around the world have been fighting to emancipate themselves for over a century, and many good men have joined in that struggle, perhaps it is time that men tried to emancipate themselves from themselves

And of course, 200 years ago in Europe, men wore the high heels, tights and make-up :eek:
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Quote: "We chop wood and wear ties and unscrew pickle jars"

There are plenty of women who also want to chop wood and unscrew pickle jars. Does your opinion extend to frowning upon their right to undertake such activities?
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Hiya Firefox,

What are you doing here taking uummm lyric's from the Lumberjack song (or it sounds that way).

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