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Old 1st April 2008, 09:59   #10 (permalink)
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Default Re: Zero-tolerance strikes again

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Originally Posted by fastfreddy2 View Post
I think that's not much of an apology? Not so much for the why, but the form of the delivery.

I happen to know Richie has spent at least three hours of his (own) time today, responding to a couple of difficult issues here - often by PM - with thanks from no-one. In fact, more likely criticism.

While your concern was well meant, it was mis-directed, as you now know. Surely an apology is order from your good self, since you did make a mistake and weren't very nice about it at the time?

Sadly, Richie gets caught between a rock and a hard place waaay too often. I've only been here a couple of months and I can see already, he's got his work cut out for him. A bit of support wouldn't go amiss.
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I'm reluctant to say more but I cannot overlook what Freddie is now saying. Yes, I have been shown to be wrong in suggesting that Richie should not have summarily banned Carmelo. But because his reasons were not transparent at that time and seemed to me unfair, I queried them. Power does carry responsibility and accountability.

Richie has spent valuable time explaining; I appreciate that and his input generally. But don't forget that I too spent time raising my query (complaint, if you wish) in good faith in what I believed to be, and still believe to be, the interests of this board and group generally. I am not an anarchist nor everyone's indignant champion, but when I see an apparently harsh and inexplicable act which affects this board, I feel entitled to seek an explanation - which I got and accept; we are all now wiser. But both query and explanation would have been avoided if the reasons for the action had been better reflected in the original exchange between Richie and Carmelo.

So, I do not apologise for raising the issue but I do apologise for wasting Richie's time. And, if I appeared forthright in my approach, then I apologise for that too - but then Richie scarcely minced his words when he put Carmelo in his place, did he?

Richie's analogy of the uninvited salesman is a good one and I certainly don't want to see this board clogged by misplaced (if not always unwanted) sales pitches. The essential difference is that it is easier to ignore (or remove) unwanted text than an unwanted foot in the door (however elegantly shod!) but the former action tends to leave evidence that is and remains more public than an imprint of one's stiletto on the salesman's instep!
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